17-55mm f2.8 IS USM vs 24-70mm f2.8L

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17-55mm f2.8 IS USM vs 24-70mm f2.8L; which is better for 1.6x crop body?
Topic Started: Sep 14 2009, 11:52 PM (492 Views)
Alekhine	Sep 14 2009, 11:52 PM Post #1
Active Noobie Posts: 62 Group: Noobie Member #169 Joined: Jan 7, 2009 Name: Fermin De Jesus Naelga Jr. Camera EOS 50D	Hello, again... I just want to hear opinions about these lenses... 17-55 is about 51,450-61,000 and 24-70L is about 62,000-70,000 17-55 have IS, 24-70 have none... since im using a 1.6x crop body, which do you think is better? - and why? thanks in advance...



smilingface	Sep 15 2009, 08:55 AM Post #2
Super Active Noobie Posts: 154 Group: Noobie Member #410 Joined: Aug 24, 2009 Name: Warly Cunanan	24-70mm f2.8 L is better.. its because its L i dont care about the IS mode... hehehe!!



Alekhine	Sep 15 2009, 02:03 PM Post #3
Active Noobie Posts: 62 Group: Noobie Member #169 Joined: Jan 7, 2009 Name: Fermin De Jesus Naelga Jr. Camera EOS 50D	i really wanted 24-70 range, but since im using 1.6x crop body (50d) 17-55 is the equivalent range of what im looking for, 27-88. i have no plans of upgrading to full frame... (yet?) and i think 10k difference makes a real deal. from the reviews, they say that the optics are the same... and so, i think there's no reason why i shouldn't take it. but i love to have an L. now i need the best reason why L is the best to buy. first choice ko din sana yung 24-70, pero mas mapapadali kung 17-55 ang kukunin ko, mas mura and the exact range i wanted for my aps-c. p.s. ang hiraphirap bumuno ng 50k and so much so with 70



smilingface	Sep 15 2009, 02:59 PM Post #4
Super Active Noobie Posts: 154 Group: Noobie Member #410 Joined: Aug 24, 2009 Name: Warly Cunanan	smilingface Sep 15 2009, 08:55 AM 24-70mm f2.8 L is better.. its because its L i dont care about the IS mode... hehehe!! eto isang statement of canon : What you can get when you use Canon L lenses (if you do your part right) are amazing pictures. In fact, this amazement is said to cause a disease know as "L-Disease". Once caught, it is incurable. You will have to buy Canon L lenses in all of the focal lengths you use. AND you will be happy (and I hope you know that I am not being totally serious). ------------ iba ang L lens ng canon compare to non L or 3rd party brand lens..



Bochog101	Sep 15 2009, 06:13 PM Post #5
Certified EON Poster Posts: 608 Group: EONite Member #66 Joined: Oct 21, 2008 Name: Aaron Paggabao Camera The darkside has called upon me!!!	may i know what type / genre of photography are you in?



axelkimura	Sep 15 2009, 11:20 PM Post #6
Certified EON Poster Posts: 922 Group: EONite Member #203 Joined: Jan 15, 2009 Name: Marc Rozen Franco Camera Nikon D80, Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4.5, Nikkor 50mm 1.8, Nikkor 55-200 VR, Metz 48	uhm sir depende siguro sa field na gusto mo sa photography bout sa IS kung di nmn mgalaw ung kamay mo ok lng siguro khit hndi na pero depende talga sa field na gusto mo



Alekhine	Sep 16 2009, 02:45 AM Post #7
Active Noobie Posts: 62 Group: Noobie Member #169 Joined: Jan 7, 2009 Name: Fermin De Jesus Naelga Jr. Camera EOS 50D	thanks for replies... uhm... i like a little of landscapes... i love portraits... siguro, journalistic photographs... 17 is wide enough for architectural photographs and landscapes (atleast) and 55 is long enough for candid photos... (para sa akin lang po ah :D) sa range po kasi na yun, uhm... parang the best walk-around lens po kasi sha... i luv my 18-55 kit lens pero i need a faster lens just as the 17-55's f/2.8... and if I do my stuff, (astro-photography) i use telescopes... so, ayun... sana nga lang magkaroon ng 17-55 na L to solve my dilemma... mashadong maikli ang 16-35L... 17-40L naman is f/4 lang... mas madalas ako sa gabi gising kesa sa umaga and take photos at night... ayaw ko naman palaging gumamit ng flash, kasi nagmumukhang pns quality yung mga shots... i tried 24-70L for a couple of shots... i think it's a great lens. esp kung ff ang camera ko, but it's not so... ayun... about 3minutes ko lang sha na hawakan so hindi ko pa sha nafeel... i mean hindi ko pa nakita yung capabilities niya since hindi ko pa sha nagagamit while walking around... gusto ko rin yung nadagdag na weight... and love the red ring around it... about the IS kasi sa 50mm na walang IS kasi nagkakablur na ako, how much more sa 70... i think i need the IS ng 17-55... haay... ang hirap mag-isip... sana kung piso lang yan binili kunalang lahat... thanks for the help guys...



aldousbee	Sep 16 2009, 12:53 PM Post #8
Certified EON Poster Posts: 642 Group: EONite Member #268 Joined: Feb 12, 2009 Name: aldous bernardo Camera Canon 30d	ako masaya na sa 17-50 na walang IS. but then again I find it too limiting pag gusto ko ng headshots. may distortion na kasi. usually I set the shutter at 1/60 and up and try to control the light, flash, proper placement etc. pero ako lang yun. baka iba na ang diskarte mo. If I have enough money I'll probably get: 10-22 (UWA) 24-70 (my general lens) 70-200 (my zoom) right now e wala pa akong resources kaya to cover some wide and some zoom i opted sa 17-50 ( a lot cheaper than the 17-55)



smilingface	Sep 16 2009, 01:17 PM Post #9
Super Active Noobie Posts: 154 Group: Noobie Member #410 Joined: Aug 24, 2009 Name: Warly Cunanan	Alekhine Sep 16 2009, 02:45 AM thanks for replies... uhm... i like a little of landscapes... i love portraits... siguro, journalistic photographs... 17 is wide enough for architectural photographs and landscapes (atleast) and 55 is long enough for candid photos... (para sa akin lang po ah :D) sa range po kasi na yun, uhm... parang the best walk-around lens po kasi sha... i luv my 18-55 kit lens pero i need a faster lens just as the 17-55's f/2.8... and if I do my stuff, (astro-photography) i use telescopes... so, ayun... sana nga lang magkaroon ng 17-55 na L to solve my dilemma... mashadong maikli ang 16-35L... 17-40L naman is f/4 lang... mas madalas ako sa gabi gising kesa sa umaga and take photos at night... ayaw ko naman palaging gumamit ng flash, kasi nagmumukhang pns quality yung mga shots... i tried 24-70L for a couple of shots... i think it's a great lens. esp kung ff ang camera ko, but it's not so... ayun... about 3minutes ko lang sha na hawakan so hindi ko pa sha nafeel... i mean hindi ko pa nakita yung capabilities niya since hindi ko pa sha nagagamit while walking around... gusto ko rin yung nadagdag na weight... and love the red ring around it... about the IS kasi sa 50mm na walang IS kasi nagkakablur na ako, how much more sa 70... i think i need the IS ng 17-55... haay... ang hirap mag-isip... sana kung piso lang yan binili kunalang lahat... thanks for the help guys... 1st sir agree ako kay aldous, 10-22mm (athouhg may kulang na 1 STOP) / 24-70,,/70-200mm but this is good lenses (trinity) 2nd may mali lang sir sa FLASH setting mo heheheh... kaya parang pns quality try to test and test para maging perfect.. ako nga sir isa lang lens ko at sigma pa sigma 24-70mm f2.8 now im planning to buy 17-40mm f4L or 10-22mm note: shooting LANDSCAPE no need for big aperture... photojorunalism need fast lenses and fast composition :-)



aldousbee	Sep 16 2009, 03:03 PM Post #10
Certified EON Poster Posts: 642 Group: EONite Member #268 Joined: Feb 12, 2009 Name: aldous bernardo Camera Canon 30d	konting OT papa Warly anong kadalasan f/stop mo sa lens mo? by the way, with regards to flash na mukhang PNS. try bouncing it. external flash ba yun? my advice is kumuha ka muna ng external flash. kahit vivitar 285HV. pag aralan mo maigi how to set your lights. pag nacommand mo ang lights mo, kitlens ka lang pamatay na shots mo. believe me



smilingface	Sep 16 2009, 04:14 PM Post #11
Super Active Noobie Posts: 154 Group: Noobie Member #410 Joined: Aug 24, 2009 Name: Warly Cunanan	aldousbee Sep 16 2009, 03:03 PM konting OT papa Warly anong kadalasan f/stop mo sa lens mo? by the way, with regards to flash na mukhang PNS. try bouncing it. external flash ba yun? my advice is kumuha ka muna ng external flash. kahit vivitar 285HV. pag aralan mo maigi how to set your lights. pag nacommand mo ang lights mo, kitlens ka lang pamatay na shots mo. believe me mostly sir aldous, f4 and minsan fix ako sa 1/80 or 1/100 adjust na lang sa ISO... kung sobrang dilim and area f2.8... then adjust sa flash if ever... pero bakit ka nagtatanong sa akin?? e ikaw nag master ko e.. hehehehehe



Alekhine	Sep 16 2009, 05:10 PM Post #12
Active Noobie Posts: 62 Group: Noobie Member #169 Joined: Jan 7, 2009 Name: Fermin De Jesus Naelga Jr. Camera EOS 50D	actually, yan lens trinity din na yan ang dream set-up ko... >>nope, wala pa po akong external flash... pero madalas akong makagamit kapag kasama ko si bossing na kumpletos rekados... kaya isa din po yun sa project ko... the best po yung canon 580 external flash... andamidaming pwedeng gawin... kasi po, kung mabibili ko siguro yung 17-55, parang lens forever kuna yun... kaso hindi "L" pero may mas cheap akong set-up na naiisip for my 50d 10-22 17-55 60 macro hindi naman na po ako mahilig magshoot ng malayo. kung magtetelephoto naman po pwede naman ang telescope na gamitin... pero kung mag-uupgrade po siguro sa Full Frame, at kung merong pera... 24-70L 70-200L 15 fisheye back to topic, iniisip ko lang naman po kasi kung saan ako mas makakamura in general... kasi yun nga po, if 17-55, mas mura... pero baka naman madaling masira like kit lenses since hindi L, baka mas makakatipid ako kapag yung 24-70 ang bibilhin ko... i heared matitibay daw po talaga ang "L" lenses... nasira kasi yung kit lens ko, wala pang isang taon... kaya ayaw ko na muna bumili nun... baka mas matibay ang gold banded lenses... mas makakatipid pa... pero sabi nila kuya bullit at dennis, talagang matibay daw kapag "L"... kaso hindi swak sa range na hinahanap ko...



aldousbee	Sep 16 2009, 05:39 PM Post #13
Certified EON Poster Posts: 642 Group: EONite Member #268 Joined: Feb 12, 2009 Name: aldous bernardo Camera Canon 30d	tamron 17-50 f/2.8 singsarap pero di singmahal :-p



Alekhine	Sep 17 2009, 01:52 AM Post #14
Active Noobie Posts: 62 Group: Noobie Member #169 Joined: Jan 7, 2009 Name: Fermin De Jesus Naelga Jr. Camera EOS 50D	excellent suggestion master aldousbee... actually, nabasa ko narin po ang reviews nyan... but since im also looking for the "feel" of the "L"... parang hindi ko sha mafeel sa tamron... i pledge my loyalty to canon. for dslr(s) Salamat po sa lahat ng mga nag-reply sa thread... mukhang wala na pong ibang solution para magkaroon ako ng "L" maybe it's not time for me to have one... i wish Canon to make an EF 17-55 f/2.8L IS USM... or atleast make it more sturdy "L" quality, not only optics but also the built. meron bang napapasahan ng mga suggestions for canon lenses? - i hope they can hear us... (or read the thread atleast...)



aldousbee	Sep 17 2009, 08:23 AM Post #15
Certified EON Poster Posts: 642 Group: EONite Member #268 Joined: Feb 12, 2009 Name: aldous bernardo Camera Canon 30d	anong master??? hehehe wala atang EF-S na L



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